Zain
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Post by Zain on Oct 31, 2005 6:35:03 GMT -5
to be honest on wat i have seen zlatan has not been playing well at all tht is a shame cuz if he is then he would be the best capello has to understand and let del piero play since he is in a better form than zlatan i dont care if zlatan doesnt play for the whole season if he continues like this becuase he is not doing anything. Del piero is clearly better at the moment and should be given a chance cuz u know wat ale can do wen he is inform and i think he is back he has never played such good matches in a row so i think he will play against bayern
this is my formation
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zambrotta/blasi--kovac---cannavaro----chiellini(zamb.)
camoranesi------emerson----------viera-----nedved/mutu
-------------------------del piero---trezeguet------------------
i really hope zlatan gets his form back as soon as possible cuz he is a great player im afraid tht he just turned into a one season wonder
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Post by yve on Oct 31, 2005 9:35:55 GMT -5
may I say they are all not playing well Zain . I still think Capello will give him a chance , to force him to come back to his form , on the bench he won´t find it . After the match against Milan I am sure our coach has found the right hard words and training style to stress our old men from Juve again . They have to win against Bayern or (depends on Bayern´s strength) achieve a remi . While the following CL matches they can get back a good feeling . And then it´s time for k.o-phase and we just have to be back in shape at this time otherwise we can forget about the dream of winning the CL . No matter what I still think this is just a phase every team has once a season and I am looking forward to Gigi coming back to us . We now need a strong base for our team and if our defence stops sleeping and our midfield starts creating chances for our forwards Juve will be back . And I am sure it will happen soon .
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Post by LaDolceViita on Oct 31, 2005 12:03:41 GMT -5
to be honest on wat i have seen zlatan has not been playing well at all tht is a shame cuz if he is then he would be the best capello has to understand and let del piero play since he is in a better form than zlatan i dont care if zlatan doesnt play for the whole season if he continues like this becuase he is not doing anything. Del piero is clearly better at the moment and should be given a chance cuz u know wat ale can do wen he is inform and i think he is back he has never played such good matches in a row so i think he will play against bayern this is my formation ------------------------------Abbiati----------------------------- zambrotta/blasi--kovac---cannavaro----chiellini(zamb.) camoranesi------emerson----------viera-----nedved/mutu -------------------------del piero---trezeguet------------------ i really hope zlatan gets his form back as soon as possible cuz he is a great player im afraid tht he just turned into a one season wonder You are absolutely correct. To say the least, Zlatan has been horrrible thus far, and it shows why he has only scored ONCE this season. The problem with Capello is that he needs to take out Zlatan when he is not in form, and let other players who are to take front stage, and I agree that Del Piero has done well. Zlatan needs a huge rest so that his hunger can come back. He has missed 8 out 10 opportunities. Zlatan said to Tuttosport that defenders have "learned" his game...and that he always gets 2 or 3 players against him - While that is true that he does have more defenders watching him, he is not being true to the facts by "forgetting" to admit that when he does have excellent opportunities to score, he MISSES 8 out 10 times. And as of late, he has also been really sloppy with the ball - he has lost the ball on many occassions, at least 2 & 3 times against Milan. This is something new that I have discovered, and that indicates that he is not confident or he is simply worn out and needs a full 2 & 3 games rest. He really has terrible finishing skills for someone with his technical skills and finess. Its an odd mix that I have never seen. Trez touches the ball once...and its a goal. Del Piero will put in a goal 3 out of 5 times. Zlatan is nowhere near that. |
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Zain
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Post by Zain on Oct 31, 2005 13:08:29 GMT -5
i agree with zlatan needing time but we dont have time thts the problem we just need DP to play agsint bayern munich but wen we play treviso he can play zlatan tht way he will score hopefuly and get his hopes high and feel good again........i wish i can tell this to capello i really hope this is his plan becuz if zlatan finds his form and tht is most probably against treviso he will dominate Serie A
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Post by LaDolceViita on Nov 2, 2005 17:07:57 GMT -5
I'm declaring Zlatan the worst player in the Juve team thus far in the season. :-)
When da fook is this guy going to learn ever that you dont kick players from behind...especially when the ball is not even near you? He did it...and he got a yellow card. Then he did a another retaliation kick on another guy.,....and you know what? Now he really deserved to be kicked out with a RED card.
He is a moron - whatta hell is he thinking?? He is so d**n immature its unbelievable.
He knows he performance suck..and now he can control his emotions.
CAPELLO....PUT ZLATAN ON THE BENCH FOR THE NEXT 5 GAMES ...NOW !!!...
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Post by tonyrealstar on Nov 2, 2005 22:00:48 GMT -5
i disagree, zlatan has no problems with his form, the main problem is that juve game has changed no doubt about that and zlatan has difficulties to modify his style of game accordintg to the new system of capello.
Even if it's true that zlatan misses too much opportunities of goal sometimes.
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Post by LaDolceViita on Nov 3, 2005 2:56:01 GMT -5
i disagree, zlatan has no problems with his form, the main problem is that juve game has changed no doubt about that and zlatan has difficulties to modify his style of game accordintg to the new system of capello. Even if it's true that zlatan misses too much opportunities of goal sometimes. New system  ? What new system are you referring too? They have playerd 4-4-2 for the ast 4 games and Zlatan is sucked. Only today did they play 4-3-3. |
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Zain
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Post by Zain on Nov 3, 2005 4:58:26 GMT -5
i think juve should go with this formation
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zamb-thuram-canna-chiellini
----camo-puma-viera----
-----------nedved----------
-delpiero----trezegoal
cheilini is doing well
we shoul duse this formation for the livorno game and see if it goes well i think it will
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Post by yve on Nov 3, 2005 13:21:24 GMT -5
Zlatan was the worst Juve player on the field ? that´s absolutely not true , Mauro was a desaster and Fabio substituted him , hard but right . Zlatan created together with Pavel the first assist for David´s goal no.1 . It´s right he lost the ball 2 or 3 times but all the others did too and he was not selfish - not a moment- he always passed the ball to another one that had a better position . Alex was doing fine he tried what he was able to do and btw Trez wasn´t nearly doing anything except of the goals . I know that for you THIS is what matters but not for me . I honour the ones who try to create and keep on going the match like Pavel or Patrick or Gian-Luca . So Fabio has to say a hard word to Zladdi again and he has got his punishment with the red card and all that follows with it . No need to make a trouble out of this . There are still others that do worse things and get no problems .
I think you LDV just want always to make a mountain out of a molehill . Come down to earth again , Juventus knew Zladdi´s kind of reacting before they signed him and you must admit he improved in playing and in behaving a lot . Don´t always say he is like a like boy becuz if you say so you have to add that there are then a lot of lil boys in professional soccer .
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Post by Zig on Nov 3, 2005 13:24:02 GMT -5
I'm declaring Zlatan the worst player in the Juve team thus far in the season. :-) When da fook is this guy going to learn ever that you dont kick players from behind...especially when the ball is not even near you? He did it...and he got a yellow card. Then he did a another retaliation kick on another guy.,....and you know what? Now he really deserved to be kicked out with a RED card. He is a moron - whatta hell is he thinking?? He is so d**n immature its unbelievable. He knows he performance suck..and now he can control his emotions. CAPELLO....PUT ZLATAN ON THE BENCH FOR THE NEXT 5 GAMES ...NOW !!!... You are declaring WHAT??!  and you dare to put this -->  smiley after that?? And how can you call him a moron? ?? Omg...  You say that he is immature? After your words I can say that you are too!! Although you are older than him... Mr. I-know-It -All.... |
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Post by yve on Nov 3, 2005 13:40:06 GMT -5
I'm declaring Zlatan the worst player in the Juve team thus far in the season. :-) When da fook is this guy going to learn ever that you dont kick players from behind...especially when the ball is not even near you? He did it...and he got a yellow card. Then he did a another retaliation kick on another guy.,....and you know what? Now he really deserved to be kicked out with a RED card. He is a moron - whatta hell is he thinking?? He is so d**n immature its unbelievable. He knows he performance suck..and now he can control his emotions. CAPELLO....PUT ZLATAN ON THE BENCH FOR THE NEXT 5 GAMES ...NOW !!!... You are declaring WHAT??! and you dare to put this --> smiley after that?? And how can you call him a moron? ?? Omg... You say that he is immature? After your words I can say that you are too!! Although you are older than him... Mr. I-know-It -All.... Don´t forget that he also seems to know better than Capello <----- what a loser ! he wanted to have Zlatan Ibrahimovic on the field and still trusts/sees his abilities ha ! . .. |
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Zain
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Post by Zain on Nov 4, 2005 1:43:00 GMT -5
zlatan needs to be warned capello has to teach him to pss more , he always keeps the ball in the air and if he puts it down and then he thinks th e apponent will take it so he pushes tht guy
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Post by LaDolceViita on Nov 4, 2005 13:50:31 GMT -5
Zain: Your obeservations are right on. Zlatans play has truly been on a downhill. He complains that he now has 2 or 3 defenders against him, which is why he can't score goals according to him.....well..that's a bunch of bandini. He forgets to even mention that he misses 8 out of 10 times when he DOES have the opportunity. He is the worst finisher among players of his caliber. When he got the red card against Bayern....they stole the ball from him by putting him out of balance....and what does his brain do ? He fooking tripps the guy (Michael Ballack) from behind and doesn't realize that the referee will see it. Where is his brain if I may ask ? Does his brain think ? How many times has he not heard from the coach and people around him that Serie A is NOT Holland ? There are cameras everywhere, and every move he makes is being followed. How many times will it take for his brain to play like a true sportsman without these stupid kicks from behind even though others do it to him ? When did anyone see Ronaldinho, Del Piero, Trezeguet, Eto, or Kaka do these unsportsman like idiot fouls ? Only amatuers does these things - real pros don't do them....they realize that the only way to beat the opponent is to score goals or produce goal-scoring assists. Zlatan is 24, but he is sooo d**n immature despite having teammates that are all older than him, from which he can mature or learn from. You would think that he would have matured or learned by now after 1 year in Serie A. He needs to be put on the bench for some time...becuase I think this is the ONLY way he will understand and respect his chances he gets in the team. And that he has to perform with dignity and not like some gangster. Also, this way he will calm down and rebuild his hunger and ONLY be focused on the play, and not when he is being taken down by opponents. As of late, he has embarrassed himself and his teammates. First grabbin himself, then making visible arguments, and now senseless kicking on opponents from behind...and that when there is 5 minutes left of the game that could have cost Juve the win. Anyone who does not see this about him, is totally biased in their analysis and uncapable of giving a true picture of him. |
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Post by yve on Nov 4, 2005 15:33:59 GMT -5
Anyone who does not see this about him, is totally biased in their analysis and uncapable of giving a true picture of him. = means : anyone who is not my opinion . . . you call it a true picture of him but you forget that there are always good and bad sides about someone so your analysis is worth nothing my friend this is football in reality and no computer game - we are talking about human beings you cannot control like your statistics (you have to face emotions ect. but maybe too much for your analysis heart) Capello will do the right steps . He knows how Zlatan Ibrahimovic works , so he also knows how he can get him back to normal behaviour . And about your comment which player on his level does such things : Ronaldinho is a very calm person he would never do so but that has sth to do with his character . You cannot make them all equal - that´s stupid and boring - Zlatan is not Ronaldinho and vice versa . And Kaka ! Please , you could never mention a worse example if you know maybe I could response . I still can remember how he handled my Gigi  and don´t tell me this was a neccessary action . The word FOUL is sth with a big size . |
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Post by LaDolceViita on Nov 4, 2005 15:52:07 GMT -5
Anyone who does not see this about him, is totally biased in their analysis and uncapable of giving a true picture of him. = means : anyone who is not my opinion . . . you call it a true picture of him but you forget that there are always good and bad sides about someone so your analysis is worth nothing my friend this is football in reality and no computer game - we are talking about human beings you cannot control like your statistics (you have to face emotions ect. but maybe too much for your analysis heart) And about your comment which player on his level does such things : Ronaldinho is a very calm person he would never do so but that has sth to do with his character . You cannot make them all equal - that´s stupid and boring - Zlatan is not Ronaldinho and vice versa . And Kaka ! Please , you could never mention a worse example if you know maybe I could response . I still can remember how he handled my Gigi and don´t tell me this was a neccessary action . The word FOUL is sth with a big size . Seems to me that Zlatan is pretty good at controlling his statistics. They are all going one way - DOWN. That's not coincidence, that's him performing poorly, so yes, he can control his performance statistics to some large extent. You don't believe that Rondaldinho's performance statistics are by "chance" or coincidence, do you ? Or for that matter KAKA, or Trezeguet, or Eto ? None of these players resort to the idiocy and the amount of problems that Zlatan does. That's a fact. As for the point of Kaka with Buffons inury, that was more of an unfortunate event that is NOT consistent with Kaka's character and style of play. If you compare the number of unsportsmans behaviour between Kaka and Zlatan, Kaka is an angel. There is NOT one incident where Kaka would start or engage himself in a visible argument against opponents on the pitch, unlike Zlatan. . |
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